11-12 ZM专贴（拜仁1-1蓝军：客队赢得点球大战）

北极海

英超无法低调，到处都是敌手

欧冠小组赛还是养养神为好

像巴萨最近两场比赛折了两员大将，桑切斯和小白，不太值
乔治六世 发表于 2011-9-17 16:04

我们伤员也很多，拉斐尔、维迪奇、克莱维利、韦尔贝克等主力都打不了，英超很艰难

巴萨对米兰的比赛我仔细看了，巴萨明显未发力，全场都没有打出速度，节奏缓慢，可能是状态原因，也可能是提不起精神

如果这个赛季巴萨缺少上个赛季的动力，那么两座重要冠军的卫冕将充满险阻

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国米和罗马之战，对一些球迷而言是个折磨

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Inter 0-0 Roma: interesting in theory, but not on the pitch
September 17, 2011


The starting line-ups

Two sides lacking confidence contested a fairly tame 0-0 draw in Milan.

Gian Piero Gasperini reverted to a three-man defence, but went with 3-4-1-2, as expected, rather than his favoured 3-4-3. Joel Obi came in on the left, and Wesley Sneijder was the number ten.

Luis Enrique stuck with his preferred 4-3-3, but made a surprise decision to start two midfielders at full-back – Rodrigo Taddei on the left, Simone Perrotta on the right.

Roma generally dominated possession but lacked ideas in the final third, whilst Inter had decent moments but had no cohesion upfront. The game fitted the 0-0 scoreline.

Formations and theory

The most interesting thing about this game was pre-match consideration of how the sides would play. Gasperini’s 3-4-3 was terrible at Palermo, and on the basis of that, another game with the same formation would have been foolish – you can’t play the same way and expect different results immediately. With Sneijder impressive when he came on against Palermo, moving into a deep, central position rather than staying in his wide-left starting role – plus Diego Forlan not comfortable out wide – it made sense to switch to 3-4-1-2.

That was only on the basis of last week’s display, though. It changes completely when you consider the way Roma were playing – with two players completely out of position at full-back. Leave them free, and they’re comfortable – no major defensive work, happy to move forward and influence the game in possession. Occupy them with a tricky opponent, and they would have looked extremely uncomfortable – and for that reason, it may have been worth Gasperini sticking with the 3-4-3, putting Sneijder up against Perrotta and Forlan against Taddei. He would have been crucified had it failed for being wedded to a system which doesn’t suit his players, but it was arguably the right way to go considering the extremely unusual situation at full-back.

Battles

In the end, Gasperini went 3-4-1-2. The Roma full-backs were free to push on up the pitch, and in a move borrowed from his old club Barcelona, Enrique told Daniele De Rossi to drop into the back, turning Roma into a back three, and a 3-4-3. David Pizarro and Sneijder broadly picked up each other in the middle (which did more harm than good to the game as a spectacle) whilst Javier Zanetti nullified Miralem Pjanic.

Roma had more of the ball – so why were they unable to open up a defence which has looked so dodgy? Totti, arguably, was not the right player for this situation as the central forward. He wanted to come deeper and deeper – maybe understandable given the lack of creativity in midfield – but Roma didn’t have the cohesion to put together the main move this system is meant to produce: Totti coming deep and the wide players moving into goalscoring positions. In the absence of such an understanding, it might have been better to have played three more direct forwards, take advantage of the 3 v 3 situation in that zone, and exploit the lack of pace in Inter’s backline. Totti played a couple of decent passes, but Inter were more than happy to let him come into a zone patrolled by Esteban Cambiasso, and let Roma play in front of them. A couple of bright moves came from Fabio Borini outpacing Andrea Rannochia, but there wasn’t enough of that.

Inter’s brightest moments came when Mauro Zarate came on for Diego Milito – he often played up against Taddei, who immediately looked uncomfortable against such a tricky opponent. Zarate had a couple of attempts that went narrowly wide. Gasperini’s mentality was summed up by his late substitution – forward Forlan off, midfielder Muntari on. He was happy with a point. Maybe Enrique was too – his changes were incremental.

Conclusion
Was this a tactical battle? It didn’t feel like it. It was more like two under-pressure managers focusing upon getting their new charges used to a new way of playing. Neither tried to exploit the particular weaknesses of their opponent, neither looked like scoring. There is still plenty of work to do for both.

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国米0-0罗马：有趣的战术理论，沉闷的场上表现

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双方都缺乏信心，一场相当沉闷的平局。

不出所料，吉安·皮埃罗·加斯佩里尼回到了之前的三后卫防守体系，但是阵型却由原来喜欢的3-4-3变成了3-4-1-2，奥巴西来到中场左路，而斯内德站回到了10号位担任核心。

路易斯·恩里克继续使用自己喜欢的4-3-3阵型，但是却意外的让两名中场罗德里格·塔代伊和西蒙·佩罗塔出现在左右边后卫的位置。

罗马更多的控制着皮球，但没能在禁区制造足够的机会，同时国米也有一些高光时刻，但在前场的配合上做的不好。0-0的比分是这场比赛最好的写照。

阵型和理论

这场比赛最有趣的地方在于赛前双发打法的预测。加斯佩里尼的3-4-3在上一场对阵帕勒莫的比赛里表现糟糕，在此基础上，再次使用相同的阵容就很愚蠢了，因为你不能指望相同的打法能够马上得到不同的结果。上一场比赛里斯内德在从开始阶段的左路回到中路以后的表现很好，再加上迭戈·弗兰在边路打的并不顺手，所以这场比赛变阵为3-4-1-2也是理所当然的。

尽管只是在上一场比赛的基础上做出的调整，但是罗马的打法却完全发生了变化-两个边后卫完全不在自己的位置上，两人没有太多的防守任务，可以很自由的前插来帮助队员对球的控制。但是当他们面对对手的进攻时却显的很狼狈，对于这一点来说，加斯佩里尼还是应该坚持3-4-3的打法的，比如让斯内德对位佩罗塔，而让弗兰去攻击塔代伊。如果自己的战术框架不适合球员的发挥，他确实应该做出改变，但是在面对这样极端的阵型（边后卫位置）时做出这样的改变还是有争议的。

对抗

最后加斯佩里尼祭出了3-4-1-2，恩里克就像在前巴塞罗那一样，让两个边后卫能够轻易的插上助攻，同时还让丹尼尔·德罗西回撤，像3-4-3阵型一样让他与双中卫组成三人防守体系，大卫·皮萨罗和斯内德在中场纠缠在一起（这也降低了比赛的精彩度）而哈维尔·萨内蒂则与米拉利姆·皮亚尼奇缠斗。

罗马在控球上占有优势，然而却没有放开去进攻。托蒂在这场比赛了并适合中锋的角色，因为他回撤的太深，虽然这增加了中场的创造力，但是罗马队员并没有做到阵型所要求那样的跑位：托蒂回撤的同时边路球员内切到射门区域。在缺乏默契跑位的时候，摆上三名前锋，更好的利用前场区域里3对3的有利条件，多抓国米的防线空挡会是更好的选择。托蒂回撤后确实传出了一些好球，但国米也乐于看到他出现在埃斯特班·坎比亚索控制的区域内，放任罗马在自己身前控球。虽然法比奥·波里尼趟过安德烈-拉诺基亚后传出了几个好球，但是这样的机会并不多。

国米最好的机会出现在毛罗·萨拉特替换下迭戈·米利托后，前者经常攻击塔代伊这一侧，让后者疲于应付。萨拉特做出了一些尝试来扩大比赛宽度。但是加斯佩里尼的想法在随后的换人中得到体现，他用蒙塔里换下弗兰加强防守。他似乎乐于拿到一分，可能恩里克也有同样的想法，他的换人也与之类似。

结论

这并不是一场战术针对性较强的比赛，更像是两个承受压力的教练想要用新的打法为球队找到一些变化的比赛。双方都没有针对对方的弱点去布置战术，也都没有想着取胜，但是对于球队表现来说，两人还有许多工作要做。

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换帅的国米和罗马，新赛季开局都不妙

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Villas-Boas faces his first big EPL test

By Michael Cox
Special to ESPN.com


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Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas has gotten off to a strong start, but it's the match against United that will be his first real Premier League test. How will he handle the pressure?

However you look at it, Sunday's trip to Old Trafford is Andre Villas-Boas' first real test as Chelsea manager. Just five games into his tenure, he faces the fixture that has effectively decided the destination of the league title in the past two seasons; in 2009-10 Chelsea won 2-1 in April to leapfrog United at the top, and last season United won by the same scoreline to put itself a point away from the title.

Villas-Boas should be thankful that he's had some time to prepare for this clash because an amazing number of his predecessors have started their Chelsea careers with a game against United. Claudio Ranieri began with a 3-3 draw at Old Trafford, Jose Mourinho's opening game was a 1-0 win at Stamford Bridge, Avram Grant took over on short notice for a 2-0 reverse in Manchester, and Carlo Ancelotti's debut was an eventful draw in the 2009 Community Shield. Four games to prepare for United is a rare privilege for a Chelsea manager these days.

His results so far have been decent -- no outstanding performances, but 10 points from 12 in the league, and an opening-day win in the Champions League. Off the pitch, however, Villas-Boas has quietly gone about his business well, particularly in the transfer market. The acquisitions of Juan Mata and Raul Meireles have revolutionized Chelsea's midfield, Daniel Sturridge is finally being given a chance up front, and the use of young Oriol Romeu shows Villas-Boas wants a more technical game plan. Meanwhile, Frank Lampard and John Terry were rested for the Champions League in midweek, and Didier Drogba doesn't seem a first choice. Chelsea needed freshening up, and the 33-year-old Portuguese manager has done that very well.

This is the first big game, though, and Villas-Boas has a good record in important encounters. With his first club, Academica, there was probably only one fixture you could describe as "big" -- the bottom-of-the-table clash with Vitoria de Setubal, which Academica won 3-0 to move off the bottom and leave the relegation battle behind it.

Villas-Boas' move to Porto saw some huge games, in fact -- notably the Classicos against Benfica, the biggest fixture in Portugal. Villas-Boas' first Classico was a legendary 5-0 win at home, and his second saw Porto win 2-1 to clinch the league title at the Estadio da Luz. Porto's performances in its successful Europa League campaign also indicated its manager was up for the big occasion.


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Villas-Boas has been putting on quite the show during Chelsea matches.

So what will his approach be against United? It is well known that Villas-Boas is a keen student of the game, someone who uses scouts and videos extensively in order to pinpoint weaknesses in his opponents. In that 5-0 win against Benfica, he believed Benfica was vulnerable in its left-back zone, where David Luiz -- ironically, now one of his own players -- was being played out of position. Therefore, Villas-Boas pushed his right-sided midfield, Fernando Belluschi, higher up the pitch, and he combined with Hulk to constantly unlock Benfica's defense. All five goals came from Benfica's left, the area that was targeted. That is Villas-Boas' trademark -- he imposes an open, positive style of football, but also varies specific tactical elements from game to game.

Manchester United has started the season strongly, but Villas-Boas will have noticed some areas of weakness. The Red Devils often look too vulnerable between the lines of defense and midfield (amazingly, they've conceded more shots than any other Premier League side so far), while Patrice Evra looked shaky even in the crushing 8-2 defeat of Arsenal. Concerns about David De Gea have been exaggerated, but Villas-Boas might attempt to come up with a tactic to trouble him.

The key man is Mata, whose Chelsea career is off to an extremely strong start. He can drift in from the left flank to cause United problems in front of its defense, and his combination play so far with Fernando Torres has worked well. Torres continues to look out of form in front of goal, but two assists in the Champions League show that he is contributing to the side, and he has a decent record at Old Trafford. On that note, Ramires is another important player in this match -- he needs to provide the drive in midfield to help Chelsea play a more "vertical" game, in Torres' words.

The biggest factor, though, is motivation. How much command does Villas-Boas have over the Chelsea players? It has been a dressing room notorious for being dominated by one or two star players, and we're still yet to see how much the Chelsea side is prepared to work for its new coach. How much do the players trust him? How closely will they follow his instructions? The likes of Norwich, West Brom, Sunderland and Stoke were unlikely to highlight any weaknesses here, but United certainly will.

No other side in Europe starts big home games as strongly as United -- Chelsea will know that from Javier Hernandez's goal after 36 seconds last season -- and Villas-Boas will have to get his players fired up from the first whistle. It is early in the season, but this is a crucial game in Chelsea's new era.

Michael Cox is a freelance writer for ESPN.com. He also runs zonalmarking.net.

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曼联vs切尔西，博阿斯的第一次大考  

由 余文乐 发表在GoalHi足球·英超专区

不管怎么看，周日作客老特拉福德的比赛都是博阿斯成为切尔西主帅以后的第一次真正的考验。仅仅第五场比赛，他就要应付一场决定了过去两个赛季联赛冠军的对决。0910赛季，切尔西在4月份2-1战胜曼联反超曼联登上榜首。而上赛季，曼联用同样的比分战胜切尔西，从而离冠军只有一分之遥。

博阿斯应该庆幸他有时间去准备这样一场碰撞。因为他的很多前任都以一场与曼联的比赛开始自己的切尔西生涯。拉涅利第一场比赛就作客老特拉福德3-3逼平曼联。穆里尼奥第一场在斯坦福桥1-0战胜曼联，格兰特接手后不久就0-2输给曼联，安切洛蒂09年社区盾的比赛中亮相，结果双方打平。上任切尔西主帅后有四场比赛为此准备，这年头已经是很奢侈的事情了。

目前为止他的战绩还不错。虽然没有杰出的表现，但四场比赛中拿到10分，在第一场欧冠也拿到了胜利。然而在场下，博阿斯正慢慢地完善他的计划，尤其是在转会市场上。买入马塔和梅雷莱斯改革了切尔西的中场，斯特里奇终于有机会在前场冲锋，对年轻的罗梅乌的使用也体现了博阿斯的技术化思路。同时，兰帕德和特里在周中的欧冠中得到了休息，德罗巴看起来不再是第一选择。切尔西需要革新，这位33岁的葡萄牙人已经做得非常好。

尽管这是第一场重要的赛事，但是博阿斯在大战中的纪录良好。在他的第一家俱乐部科英布拉大学，只有一场比赛可以称作大战，就是和塞图巴尔的榜尾大战，结果科英布拉大学3-0战胜对手。博阿斯来到波尔图以后经历好几场大战，尤其是和本菲卡的国家德比。博阿斯第一场国家德比就在主场5-0战胜对手，而第二回合在客场也2-1取胜，在光明球场获得联赛冠军。波尔图在欧联杯的成功也体现了他在大场面能有好表现。

那么，他对曼联的比赛中会采取怎样的策略？博阿斯以善于从比赛中学习著称，他会用球探和录像去寻找对手的弱点。在他5-0战胜对手的比赛中，他相信本菲卡的左后卫位置是突破口，因为当时的左后卫是客串的大卫-鲁伊斯（讽刺的是，鲁伊斯现在是他手下的球员）。因此，博阿斯让他的右中场贝卢斯奇前压，和胡尔克一起攻击对方防线。所有五个进球都是来自本菲卡的左路，也就是波尔图的攻击目标。那是博阿斯的商标-他使用一种开放的积极的球风，但同时也在不同的比赛中有特别的战术部署。

曼联的赛季开局非常强势，但博阿斯会注意到一些薄弱的位置。红魔在中场和后卫线之间（令人惊讶的是，到目前为止，他们是联赛中被射门次数最多的球队）看起来很薄弱，而埃弗拉即使是在8-2大胜阿森纳的比赛中也表现不稳。对于德赫亚的担忧有点过分，但是博阿斯也许会尝试用某种战术让他难堪。

关键人物是马塔，他在切尔西的生涯有一个很强的开端。他可以从左路内切在曼联的防线前造成破坏，而他和托雷斯的组合在目前位置都很出色。托雷斯在门前的感觉依然没有回来，但他在欧冠的两次助攻证明他对球队是有贡献的，而且，他在老特拉福德的纪录很不错。关于这个，拉米雷斯是另外一个关键的球员。他需要提供来自中场的前插，帮助切尔西打出更立体的进攻。

然而，最大的因素是鼓动。博阿斯对切尔西的球员有多少控制力？这是一个由一或两名球员控制的臭名昭著（notorious） 的更衣室，切尔西的球员能多大程度地为他们的新主帅卖力依然有待观察。他的球员有多信任他？他们会严格遵守他的布置吗？像诺维奇西布朗桑德兰斯托克这样的球队不太可能可以从中找到弱点，但是曼联呢？

欧洲还没有一支球队在主场的开局像曼联一样威武霸气（切尔西会记得上赛季埃尔南德斯在36秒的进球），而博阿斯将必须让他的球员在开场第一次马上进入角色。赛季才刚开始，但这是切尔西新纪元的一场至关重要的比赛。

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Ten points on Manchester United 3-1 Chelsea
September 18, 2011

The starting line-ups

A crazily open game with no overall pattern, so here are some disparate observations.

1. Early on, there was an amazing lack of pressure upon the player in possession in midfield, particularly when Anderson and Darren Fletcher had the ball. This seems to be an early trend this season around Europe – in Serie A games it has been particularly obvious that sides aren’t closing down until the opposition get into the final third of the pitch. Considering Barcelona are currently the best side around and base their game without the ball around pressing, it’s a strange development.
2. When Manchester United played Chelsea four times last season, the major trend was that Chelsea needed a strong player to stay goalside of Wayne Rooney – when he dropped into the hole, he was a major threat. Andre Villas-Boas wasn’t naive enough to go without a holder, but he did play Raul Meireles there. The Portuguese midfielder is a functional player who can play there (arguably his major quality is his ability to ‘do a job’; it’s difficult to identify a particular area of the game he excels at), but probably not against a player as dangerous as Rooney. Jon Obi Mikel may have been a better bet:
3. United have often been extremely fluid in attacking positions this season, but today there were much more structured. The wide players tended to stay wider, for example – compare Young’s positioning today with his action zones against Tottenham on the opening day.

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4. The interesting thing about this week’s “story” about Fernando Torres criticising his teammates was that Torres actually offered a good analysis of the reasons why he hasn’t thrived at Chelsea. His major source of goals at Liverpool was from through-balls played into his path, and his comments that he wanted a more ‘vertical’ game at Chelsea with creative midfielders who played the ball more quickly was a fine analysis. It doesn’t excuse his own poor finishing, but it does explain why he hasn’t suited Chelsea – or why Chelsea hasn’t suited him. His brighter performance today came because Chelsea were trying to slide balls through the defence – see his goal, as well as his inexplicable miss.
5. In hindsight, this wasn’t a game for Frank Lampard. Mikel could have dealt with Rooney, and Chelsea would have been able to press better, as well as assist Torres more effectively, with two of Ramires, Meireles and Juan Mata playing just ahead. Lampard has been an extremely effective player – without ever being an extremely talented player – for many years, largely because he was perfect for a specific role in a specific system. Villas-Boas has changed that system, and now roles have changed, even within the same starting formation. It is too soon to write off Lampard, but he may have to adapt to retain his place as a regular.
6. If Villas-Boas is trying to modernise Chelsea and create a better passing side, he’d do well to look at his centre-backs’ ability on the ball. Jonny Evans had a 95% pass completion rate, Phil Jones’ was 88%, but John Terry and Branislav Ivanovic both finished on 77%.
7. Throughout all Sir Alex Ferguson’s sides, perhaps the main similarity has been the use of width, and the use of diagonal balls. That was particularly obvious today – Evans played a great crossfield ball to Nani for the goal, and Anderson did the same shortly before Nani set up Javier Hernandez in the first half. Rooney often dropped deep and played a shorter diagonal. When a 4-4-2 / 4-4-1-1 meets a 4-3-3, often the main advantage for the former is the fact that the wingers are often immediately against the opposition full-back – the wide forward in the 4-3-3 usually watches the opposition full-back rather than covers his own. Twice in a row at Old Trafford, United’s right-winger has dominated Ashley Cole.
8. When ahead, players who can come off the bench and play simple passes to keep the ball are invaluable. Michael Carrick is the classic example, but Dimitar Berbatov did well, not conceding possession once from 14 passes.
9. United conceded 22 shots here, 22 at Bolton, 20 against Arsenal, 21 against West Brom and 16 against West Brom. These are surprisingly high figures (they’ve allowed more shots than any other Premier League team) – the question is whether this is because of defensive slackness, or because opponents are overly-keen to test David De Gea.
10. Despite a couple of errors here, Villas-Boas is doing a good job at Chelsea. The side needed an overhaul of its first XI and its general football ideology, and already the side seems fresher, younger and more technical. They competed well here, and were unfortunate to be 3-0 down at half-time. Some managers would have feared a thrashing and shut up shop, but the introduction of Nicolas Anelka for Lampard – and a change to more of a 4-2-1-3 – showed bravery, positivity and confidence in his players, and it broadly worked well.

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曼联3-1切尔西，疯狂比赛的10点碎碎念

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这是一场疯狂的比赛，只能碎碎念了。

1. 在开场阶段，切尔西让人惊讶地很少对拿球的中场球员进行压迫，尤其是安德森和弗莱彻拿球的时候。这看起来像是这个赛季欧洲的潮流，这在意甲尤其明显。在对手进入进攻三区之前，防守球员都不会进行压迫。联想到巴塞罗那是目前最强的球队，如果他们拿球没有被压迫，这，是一个奇怪的发展方向。

2. 曼联上个赛季4次对阵切尔西，切尔西需要一个强壮的球员限制鲁尼，当他后撤，他就产生了威胁。当然博阿斯不会幼稚到不用后腰，但他用的是梅勒莱斯。葡萄牙球星是一名功能性球员 （他的主要能力是他的执行力，你不能准确地说出他的位置），但也许不该用他抑制像鲁尼这样有威胁的球员。米克尔也许是更好的选择。

3.本赛季曼联在进攻端的跑位都非常灵活，但今天他们更严谨。边锋留在边路，对比一下阿什利扬今天的位置和对阵热刺时候的表现吧。


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4. 本周一个有趣的“故事”是托雷斯他的队友。而这正正很好的分析了为什么托雷斯在切尔西无法发光的原因。他在利物浦的主要进球来源是接应直塞，而他希望切尔西的比赛更“直接”，创造性中场处理球更加迅速这一说法是一个很好的解释。这不是为他的糟糕射门找借口，但这的确解释了为什么他在切尔西不适应。他今天最高光时刻都来自切尔西的直塞，看看他的进球，还有他的空门不进。

5. 事后看来，这不是一场属于兰帕德的比赛。米克尔应该首发抑制鲁尼，那样切尔西的压迫可以做得更好，也更加有效地支援托雷斯，拉米雷斯。梅勒莱斯和马塔中的两人可以顶在前面。兰帕德在很多年来都是很高效的球员，很大程度上是因为他处于一个很特别的体系中的一个很特别的角色。博阿斯改变了这个体系，现在角色已经改变，尽管阵型还是433.认为兰帕德难堪大用还太早，但他应该去适应他尝试作为一个轮换球员的保住他的位置。

6. 如果博阿斯想让切尔西变得更现代化，创造出一支更好的传球型球队，他应该去看看他的中卫的拿球能力。埃文斯有着95%的传球成功率，而琼斯是88.但特里和伊万诺维奇都是只有77%

7. 纵观弗格森的球队，也许主要相似的地方在于对宽度和对角长传的利用。今天尤其明显，埃文斯送出的一记精彩的长传让纳尼打进了一球，而安德森在上半场也为纳尼送出同样的传送，纳尼得球后挑传埃尔南德斯造成威胁。鲁尼经常后撤拿球然后做出一些小范围的对角转移。当442/4411的球队对阵433的球队时，其中一个主要优势就是前者的边锋经常可以直接面对对方的边后卫。433的边锋通常都是压制对手的边后卫而不是帮助自己的边后卫协防。连续两次，曼联的右边锋压制的阿什利-科尔。

8. 当取得领先之后，能从替补席上出场做出简单传接来保持控球的球员是很重要的，卡里克就是一个典型的例子。贝尔巴托夫表现不错，他在14次传球没有一次失误。

9. 曼联今天被射了22次。对博尔顿的时候是22次，对阿森纳是20次，对西布朗是21次。这个数字让人搞得让人惊讶（英超最多），原因可能是防线松懈，或者是对手太想挑战德赫亚了。

10. 尽管有一些错误，但博阿斯在切尔西的表现很好。这支球队需要重新考虑他们的首发阵容和整个足球理念，而现在他们已经给人一种更加年轻有活力、技术化的感觉。他们的表现不差，半场落后0-3很不走运。有些主帅会害怕变成屠杀而变得保守，但他用阿内尔卡换下了兰帕德把阵型换成4213展现了他的勇敢、进取和对手下球员的自信，而这运作得非常好。

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2011-9-18 英超第5轮 曼联VS切尔西 比赛集锦

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2011-9-18 1112英超第5轮 曼联 vs 切尔西 上半场[詹俊]

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2011-9-18  1112英超第5轮 曼联 vs 切尔西  下半场[詹俊]

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Tottenham 4-0 Liverpool: Tottenham dominate
September 18, 2011

The starting line-ups

A wondergoal got them going and the rest came when Liverpool had a numerical disadvantage, but Tottenham were clearly the better side in this match.

Harry Redknapp used his 4-4-2, with Niko Kranjcar out on the right – Rafael van der Vaart was half-fit, and on the bench.
Kenny Dalglish seemed to begin with a very narrow system – Charlie Adam very narrow on the left and Stewart Downing out on the right – perhaps to counteract Tottenham’s wing threat, which would come from the left through Bale, rather than the right through Kranjcar.
Tottenham began brightly, pressing Liverpool in midfield and keeping possession well themselves. Charlie Adam, in particular, was given no time on the ball to spray passes across the pitch – as a result, he ended with his second-lowest pass completion rate in his Premier League career, according to Opta. Perhaps this frustration also contributed towards his red card midway through the first half.
Possession
Tottenham kept the ball particularly well (even at 11 v 11), which was impressive considering Liverpool tried to pack the centre of the pitch early on. Luka Modric played passes to the flanks, Scott Parker also provided distribution from deeper, and Kranjcar came into the middle of the pitch, and enjoyed the fact that he had space down that side.
The front two, who dovetailed well at Wolves last week, again had a good game together. Jermain Defoe dropped into intelligent positions between the lines, whilst Adebayor often worked the channels and brought the Liverpool centre-backs out of the back. They both came deep, offered another passing option, and finished with impressive passing stats – Adebayor for how often he was involved, Defoe because he didn’t once give the ball away.

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The most obvious theme from the first half was Liverpool’s indiscipline. They continually gave away free-kicks, particularly just outside of the box to (their) left, and the poor tackling brought various separate problems. Most obviously, it resulted in two of their players getting sent off, but it also gave Tottenham good shooting opportunities from dead ball situations.
11 v 10
The real tactical excitement came after Liverpool went down to ten, with Charlie Adam dismissed. Dalglish kept the same ten players on the pitch, and made the surprising decision to stick Andy Carroll out on the left. Maybe Dalglish wanted to cause Kyle Walker problems in the air, but Carroll looked uncomfortable and didn’t have the energy to track Walker when Liverpool didn’t have the ball (which was the majority of the time). Putting Suarez out wide would have made more sense, or alternatively Liverpool had two players on the bench – Dirk Kuyt and Craig Bellamy – who naturally shuttle from a wide role to a support striker position.
Tottenham played the 11 v 10 well – they kept width, kept the ball and tired Liverpool. That said, they didn’t produce too many clear-cut chances, and had to wait until Liverpool got Martin Skrtel sent off for their second goal.
11 v 9
It’s difficult to argue that Dalglish could have done anything to get Liverpool back in the game here. Competing with nine men is vaguely possible if you’re at 0-0 and can grind out a draw – but since Liverpool needed to get back into the game, it was hopeless.
Conclusion
This could have been an extremely interesting game. For the first few minutes it was – Tottenham pressed brilliantly, and Adam’s problems summed up Liverpool as a whole: unable to find space, unable to play the ball forward. The narrowness can help retain possession, but it does mean the opposition have to cover less space and do less work to close down.
Dalglish was in a difficult situation with ten men, but using Carroll on the flank was a strange decision that didn’t seem to bring any benefits – Liverpool couldn’t get the ball forward, and Carroll didn’t offer much defensively. A change was needed when Liverpool had ten – when it was nine, it was game over.

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热刺控球制胜，9人利物浦无力回天  

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热刺通过精彩的进球取得领先，其余三个进球则是在利物浦缺兵少将的时候完成的。不过，热刺毫无疑问在本场比赛中发挥更加出色。

雷德克纳普排出了4-4-2的阵容，状态并未完全恢复的范德法特坐在了替补席上，克拉尼察出现在右前卫的位置上。而达格利什的中场布阵则更加密集一些：亚当虚左实中，和卢卡斯、亨德森一起聚集在中路，唐宁出任右前卫。这样的安排可能是顾忌到了热刺左翼贝尔强劲的助攻能力，相比之下，右边克拉尼察的攻击力要弱一些。

热刺的开局打得不错，他们在中场对利物浦展开压迫，并且自己的阵型也保持地很好。他们对亚当的盯防尤其出色，热刺的防守使得亚当无暇从容地转移球。OPTA数据显示，亚当本场比赛的传球成功率是他英超生涯中第二低的。或许这样的高压状态也是亚当吃到红牌的原因之一吧。

控球

热刺在本场比赛中控球做得非常好，（即便在11打11的情况下也是如此）而且这还是在利物浦很重视中场争夺的情况下完成的。莫德里奇可以向两翼进行输送，帕克在后腰位置上得传球做得也很不错，克拉尼察在对方没有重点照顾的情况下也踢得游刃有余。

锋线上得迪福和阿德巴约则延续了上轮对阵狼队时的出色表现。迪福用灵活的跑位寻找空挡，而阿德巴约则用大范围的穿插跑动拉扯着利物浦的后防线。两人都时常回撤接应队友，他们本场比赛的传球数据都很棒，阿德巴约的传球数有惊人的73次，迪福的传球数虽然只有19次，但是成功率达到了100%。



在上半场，利物浦的犯规太多了。他们给了热刺太多的任意球，尤其是在本方左侧禁区前沿。这些糟糕的铲抢直接导致了两名球员的被罚出场，还给了热刺无数定位球攻门的机会。

11打10阶段

在亚当被罚下后，达格利什做出的战术调整让人感到很有趣。他没有用换人来调整阵型，而是令人惊讶的把卡罗尔放到了左翼，或许他是想用卡罗尔的空中优势来给沃克制造麻烦。但是卡罗尔对于这样的调整很不适应，而且在无球状态下，他也显得缺乏足够的能量去对沃克进行逼抢。（实际情况是，利物浦大部分时候都很难拿到球）把苏亚雷斯拉到边路可能是个更好的选择。又或者换上库伊特、贝拉米这样的球员起到的效果都会更大一些，毕竟这两人都是既能打边路，又能打第二前锋的。

热刺在多一人的情况下踢得很聪明。他们牢牢地控制着球，充分利用场地宽度，一点点地消耗着对手的能量。不过在这一阶段，他们也没有创造出什么绝好的得分机会，直到斯科特尔被罚下后，他们才取得了第二个进球。

11打9阶段

在这种状况下，即便是达格利什也无力回天了。如果比分是0-0的话，或许还有机会逼得一场平局。但是在比分落后的情况下想要扳回来，那就太难了。

结语

本来这应该是一场非常精彩的比赛。比赛前几分钟的走势就很值得回味。热刺很好地压迫了利物浦的中场，而亚当的困境则是利物浦全队的一个缩影：无法找到空挡，难以向前推进。的确，紧凑的站位可以加强对中场的争夺，但是这同样也让对方防守时所需要覆盖的范围小了很多。

在少一人的时候，达格利什面临着一个困难的局面，但是把卡罗尔拉到左翼被证明不是一招好棋：利物浦在前场拿不住球，而卡罗尔在防守端也无所作为。这个时候如果做出别的调整，比赛或许还有救。而在9打11的时候，比赛就已经彻底结束了。

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Napoli 3-1 Milan: Counter-attack and Cavani hat-trick
September 18, 2011

The starting line-ups

Hat-trick specialist Edinson Cavani bagged another as Napoli confirmed their title potential.
Walter Mazzarri played what his strongest XI – Andrea Dossena came in for Juan Zuniga from the side that drew with Manchester City.
Max Allegri has something of an injury crisis, summed up by an extremely inexperienced bench. Daniele Bonera played at left-back, and Antonio Cassano partnered Pato upfront.
Milan took the lead through a superb Alberto Aquilani header, but the pattern of the game was this: Milan get possession, run out of ideas in the final third, Napoli win the ball, break quickly, and score.

Formation match-up
Napoli’s 3-4-3ish shape generally produces interesting games against different formations, and it was fascinating to see it come up against a midfield diamond. At either end of the pitch, there were few major issues – Napoli had 3 v 2 at the back, Milan had 4 v 3. All was well there. The midfield battle, however, was much more interesting, where there was a contest between Milan’s carrileros, who started narrow and moved forward to provide extra runners from midfield, and the Napoli wing-backs.
In a way, the Napoli wing-backs were forced to do a similar job as they did in midweek at City – to come narrow, out of their natural positions on the flank. Still, they did have problems when the carrileros made forward runs into very central positions – Clarence Seedorf found space a couple of times on the edge of the box.
Napoli breaks
It was equally interesting when Napoli won the ball, because the Milan carrileros were never quite sure what to do. In a 4-3-1-2, the midfield diamond usually stays narrow and slides across the pitch. Yet because Napoli attacked so directly, there was rarely any lateral movement from the diamond – Seedorf and Antonio Nocerino simply had to sprint back, often into very deep, wide positions that meant Napoli lost their shape.
In addition, Mark van Bommel didn’t really know what to do with himself. He had no direct opponent to pick up, and without the ball he failed to stop Napoli’s breaks – most obviously when he was skinned by Walter Gargano for Cavani’s second. His distribution on the ball was also quite poor, with the full-backs not free.
Milan in possession
Those full-backs could have done more in the attacking phase, though – Bonera is too right-footed to play left-back and was inevitably replaced by Luca Antonini in the second half. They were obviously scared of the counter, but Milan should have been able to half-trust, half-risk their two centre-backs plus a holding midfield when they were chasing the game.
Napoli rarely looked to press Milan (with the exception of one brief instance at the start of the second half) – they were happy to soak up pressure, win the ball in their own third, and then break. They were very much a counter-attacking side last season, but seem an exaggerated version of themselves so far in 2011/12.
Milan were extremely poor in the final third. It was a surprise to see Cassano to the right and Pato to the left – the former likes to drift in from the left, the latter has sometimes been fielded as a right-sided forward – but that wasn’t their main problem. Their passing was too slow, their play was too narrow and too easy to break down. Aquilani’s header was superb but otherwise he was disappointing, and he probably isn’t at his best as a trequartista. He is much better technically than Kevin-Prince Boateng, but at least Boateng gives drive to their attacks.
There were plenty of late substitutions, but they didn’t change the pattern of the match as Napoli successfully killed the game. Urby Emanuelson came on for van Bommel with Seedorf going to the holding role, and Blerim Dzemaili came on for Hamsik, playing a little deeper and making Napoli a 3-5-2 without the ball. Formations didn’t matter so much by this stage – Napoli were putting men behind the ball and defending deep, and Milan never looked like having the creativity to break them down.
Conclusion
Mazzarri won the battle here – Napoli were excellent at breaking quickly, with the wing-backs and Gargano rapidly turning defence into attack, whilst the addition of Gokhan Inler has made them fiercer in the centre of the pitch, even if they may lack Michele Pazienza’s discipline later on in the season.
Milan’s defeat was extremely reminiscent of their loss to Cesena just over a year ago. Then, it seemed they wouldn’t be able to win the title with such a narrow formation and no drive from full-back, but they pulled it off – so no need to get carried away with this defeat.

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那不勒斯3：1米兰：防守反击和卡瓦尼的帽子戏法  

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帽子戏法专家的卡瓦尼再次帮助那不勒斯拿下比赛，证明球队也具有夺冠的潜力。

沃尔特·马扎里祭出了自己的最强阵容-跟上一场与曼城的平局相比，他只用多塞纳替换祖尼加出场。

马克斯·阿莱格里要为这场比赛的失利负责，他派出了一个比较陌生的阵容，让丹尼尔·博内拉打左后卫，前锋线上则是让卡萨诺和帕托搭档。

米兰依靠阿尔伯托·阿奎拉尼漂亮的头球取得领先，但是整场比赛的基调却是这样的：米兰掌控着皮球，但是在禁区却毫无办法，然后那不勒斯抢下皮球，快速的反击后，射门得分。

阵型配对

那不勒斯的3-4-3阵型对抗其它阵型的球队会发生一些有趣的变化，当他们面对米兰的菱形中场时比赛变的尤为好看。球场两头的对抗是比赛的主要看点-那不勒斯后场的三后卫对抗米兰的双前锋，米兰的四后卫面对着对方的三名前锋，并且双方表现还都不错。但是中场的争夺，也就是米兰的两个平行后腰（carrileros，指诺切利诺和西多夫；两人并没有拉开宽度，而仅仅通过从中场前插来帮助球队的进攻）和那不勒斯边前卫之间的博弈还要更有趣。

在一定程度上，那不勒斯的两名边前卫被迫像上一场对阵曼城所做的那样，放弃呆在边路而是经常的来到中路。但他们在面对对方的carrileros前插时，仍然会出现一些空挡，比如克莱伦斯-西多夫就多次在边路创造机会。

那不勒斯的进攻

那不勒斯拿球的时候也同样有趣，因为米兰的carrileros不确定自己应该干什么。菱形中场的站位比较狭窄，但是通常在进攻时会拉开来扩大宽度，然而由于那不勒斯的进攻很直接-很少从菱形中场的侧面带球前进-西多夫和诺切利诺只能快速回防，经常回防到很深很宽的位置上-也就是说那不勒斯并没有死守自己的阵型去组织进攻。

此外，马克-范博梅尔并不清楚自己的职责。他没有具体的盯防对象，并且在无球防守时不能阻断那不勒斯的进攻，特别是卡瓦尼在进第二个球的时候他正受制于加尔加诺的牵扯而不能及时回防。并且由于他糟糕的分球，也使得本方两个边后卫不能自由的行动。

米兰控球

两个边后卫本来可以对球队的进攻做出更多贡献的。比如博内拉，是一名纯粹的右脚球员却出现在左路，助攻乏力的他下半场被卢卡-安东尼尼换下也是情理之中的。很明显米兰害怕对方的反击，但是他们本应该信任自己的两名中后卫和后腰的（范博梅尔）。

那不勒斯很少去压迫米兰（下半场开始时短暂的对米兰进行压迫），他们似乎很乐于将球交给米兰，然后在本方后场防守，断球，反击。上赛季他们非常善于防守反击，但是这赛季迄今为止他们做的比上赛季还要好。

米兰在进攻三区毫无办法，我们很以外的发现卡萨诺出现在右路而帕托出现在左路，要知道前者更喜欢从左路发起进攻，而后者很多时候是作为右边锋出现的，但是这些并不是他们主要的问题所在。他们的主要问题是球的传递太慢，进攻的宽度不够，很轻易的就被阻断。阿奎拉尼的头球很漂亮，但除此之外别无亮点，可能是因为他并不适合作为一个9号半的角色（或者前腰？）。他的技术要好于凯文·普林斯·博阿滕，但是起码博阿滕能够帮助球队的进攻。

随后米兰做出了不少换人，但是由于那不勒斯已经成功的让比赛失去悬念，所以这些换人并没有对比赛造成任何影响。埃马努尔森上场替换下范博梅尔，西多夫来到了控球后腰的位置，而布雷利姆-泽马伊琍换下哈姆西克来加强防守，后者的位置比较靠后，这样球队在无球状态下的阵型就变成了3-5-2。在这个阶段阵型已经无所谓了-那不勒斯的防线后撤，球员堆积在后场防守，米兰似乎也没能找到打败对手的方法。

结论

马扎里赢得了比赛，两个边前卫和加尔加诺在由守转攻的时候做的很不错，隐私那不勒斯的快攻做的非常好。同时即使他们在赛季后期失去了米凯尔-帕齐恩扎，因勒也能够大大增强中场的硬度。

米兰这场失败让人想起了一年前输给切塞纳的那场比赛，那时他们阵型狭窄，边后卫缺乏助攻，似乎不能来赢得联赛，但他们最终克服了这些困难并且最终夺得了联赛冠军。

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2011-9-19 意甲第3轮 那不勒斯 vs AC米兰 1st half rm

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2011-9-19 意甲第3轮 那不勒斯 vs AC米兰 2nd half rmvb

Alex2011

曼联vs蓝军
热刺vs红军
那波里vs米兰
强强对话中，三位主队主帅都hold主

乔治六世

曼联神奇，
三分之一是靠德伢子rp神奇，
三分之一是靠托雷斯、拉米雷斯等空门不进的神奇，
三分之一是靠曼联射手或攻击手精准和效率
的神奇

话说安德森多次把球传在托雷斯（后场）和兰帕德脚下（前场），笑死人，可是托雷斯却抓不住单刀和空门机会，更笑死人

不上兰帕德，对阵曼联时蓝军就有戏了

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Manchester United v Chelsea: Five things we learned
曼联与蓝军英超德比战：俺们从中体会到5点意见看法

Nani no longer stands in Cristiano Ronaldo's shadow, Frank Lampard is fading fast and David de Gea is getting better
纳尼不再被cr7阴影所笼罩，兰帕德迅速颓废而德赫亚成长良好

Daniel Taylor at Old Trafford
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 18 September 2011 18.57 BST


Chelsea's Fernando Torres was erratic against Manchester United while David de Gea is improving rapidly. Photograph: Darren Walsh/Chelsea FC via Getty Images

1 Manchester, the new Milan?
曼联，新的米兰？
Manchester, Mark Radcliffe once said, is "a city that thinks a table is for dancing on" and, in football terms, it is difficult to see anyone else gatecrashing the party. Sir Alex Ferguson's message before this match was that Chelsea could not be discounted but there was little evidence to suggest André Villas‑Boas's team can sustain a genuine title challenge to the Manchester clubs. Chelsea looked bright in flashes. They moved the ball well and got behind United's defence but they also flirted with the idea of going down to the heaviest defeat of the Roman Abramovich era. The season is still in its infancy and nobody from Old Trafford would be presumptuous enough to write them off, but, for the team that beat Arsenal 8-2 in their last home match, this could conceivably have been another score more reminiscent of a 1950s match.

2 Nani is his own man
沧海横流，纳尼方显英雄本色
At Old Trafford they still find it perplexing that Nani did not even make it on to the short list for last season's player-of-the-year awards – and the sense of grievance is fully justified. Nani has not always been the crowd's favourite, but since he developed into a serious footballer it is difficult to think of too many wide players around the football world who possess a greater penetrative edge. Nani complained recently that whenever he is interviewed he is always asked about whether he feels he is still living in the shadow of Ronaldo. The truth is he has become a formidable player in his own right. Here's a statistic: Nani versus Ronaldo, goals and assists over their first 100 league matches for United – 52 versus 31.

3 Will the old Torres return?
暮气的托雷斯将逢春吗
The thing about Fernando Torres is that everyone seems to think it is only a matter of time before the old player comes back, the devastating striker who gave the impression he could score from any angle and once came to Old Trafford and subjected Nemanja Vidic to one of the worst ordeals he has suffered in United's colours. Torres, to give him his due, reminded us that he can distinguish between the frame of a goal and the door of a barn and when he clipped his shot over David de Gea early in the second half it was in a manner totally out of keeping with someone who had scored just once in his previous 23 matches for Chelsea. But then we come to the open‑goal miss later in the second half. Or the pig's ear he made of that chance in the first half when Anderson gave him the ball just outside the penalty area. His performance was a wild graph of what is good and bad and, sadly for him, that horrible late howler in front of the Stretford End will probably be remembered more than the expertly taken goal.

4 Lampard is fading fast
兰帕德颓废很快
At half-time it was clear that Chelsea needed to change something and the decision by Villas-Boas was bold. Frank Lampard had struggled through the opening 45 minutes, like a boxer after one too many fights. He is 33 now, the years are catching up and there are increasing signs of a player on the wane. Perhaps he needs to reinvent himself. This is still a footballer with many qualities but, in terms of energy and drive, Ramires had a more telling impact for Chelsea in midfield. And the worst part for Lampard? This is beginning to feel like the norm rather than the exception. Maybe now is the time he should consider taking a more deep-lying role, just as Roy Keane and Paul Scholes once changed their roles for United. The cold, harsh reality is, that nobody could particularly argue with the decision of Lampard's manager.

5 De Gea winning them over
德赫亚战胜了他们
There were a couple of loose moments. The Manchester United goalkeeper flapped at a cross and, at one point, Chelsea's supporters could be heard comparing him unfavourably with Heurelho Gomes, now third-choice goalkeeper at Spurs. But De Gea's self‑belief is growing and, likewise, the crowd are getting more confidence in him. He also enjoyed a bit of luck because while the point‑blank save from Ramires earned him a congratulatory hug from Anderson, the Chelsea man will wince when he sees the replays of how he and his team-mate Daniel Sturridge got in each other's way. De Gea has endured an erratic start but, slowly but surely, he is coming through the scrutiny.

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从曼联vs切尔西中知道的五件事

由 余文乐 发表在GoalHi足球·英超专区


切尔西的托雷斯在对阵曼联时表现起伏而德赫亚正在快速提高之中。
Photograph: Darren Walsh/Chelsea FC via Getty Images

1 曼彻斯特成为新的米兰
马克-拉德克里夫曾经说曼彻斯特是“一个以为桌子是用来跳舞的城市”。用足球界的话来说，你很难看到客队喧宾夺主。这场比赛之前，弗格森爵士发出的信息是，切尔西不可忽视，但很少有证据表明，博阿斯的球队可以对曼彻斯特球队的争冠产生很大的威胁。切尔西在某些闪光点上看起来很光明。他们的转移球很好，能打到曼联防线的身后，但他们也曾面临着遭遇阿布时代最大失利的危险。赛季才刚开始，曼联人不能把切尔西排除在竞争对手之外，但对于一支上个主场8-2战胜阿森纳的球队，这可能比那场上赛季50年代的那场让人怀念的比赛打进更多进球。

2 纳尼就是纳尼
老特拉福德的人们依然觉得上个赛季纳尼没有能够入选年度最佳的候选人名单觉得不可思议，这份委屈感今天得到了明证。纳尼并不总是人们的最爱，但当他成长为一名严肃的球员之后，很少有边路球员可以比他更具渗透力。纳尼最近抱怨，无论在什么时候接受采访，他总是被问到是否依然活着C罗的阴影之下。事实上，他已经凭借自身的能力成为了一名了不起的球员。这里有一个数据，在代表曼联的头100场联赛当中，助攻和进球的总数，纳尼是52，C罗是31。

3 托雷斯能否重回巅峰？
关于托雷斯，大家都认为他找回状态只是时间的问题，这位全能的前锋曾给人以能在任何角度进球的印象，曾是维迪奇曼联生涯最大的苦主。托雷斯让我们回想起他能够分清楚球门和谷仓门的区别，而当他在下半场早段把球挑过德赫亚的时候，这让人完全忘了他曾经是在代表切尔西的前23比赛中仅仅打进一球。但后来就有了那个空门不进。还有上半场安德森在本方禁区前直接把球送给他之后的射门偏出。他的表现有很大起伏，而对于西看台球迷来说，那个空门不进比他的精彩进球更能让人记住。

4 兰帕德正快速老去
显然，切尔西需要在中场休息的时候做出改变，而博阿斯的决定很大胆。兰帕德在上半场45分钟内很挣扎，他就像是一个拳手经过了太多的比赛一样。他现在33岁了，年岁渐增而衰退的迹象越来越明显。也许兰帕德需要重新找回自己，他依然是一名有实力的球员，但从活力和冲击性来说，拉米雷斯在切尔西的中场更具说服力。对兰帕德来说最糟糕的是？这样的表现开始成为常态而不是偶然现象。也许现在兰帕德是时候考虑一个靠后的位置，就像基恩和斯科尔斯曾经在曼联做出的改变一样。冷酷的事实是，没有人能质疑兰帕德主帅的这个决定。

5 德赫亚正快速成长
切尔西的球迷能听到拿他和戈麦斯对比的声音。后者现在是热刺的第三门将。但德赫亚的自信在提升，而与此同时，大家对他的信心也越来越足。他也有好运气，他成功扑出了拉米雷斯的近距离射门，原因之一就是后者和队友互相干扰了。德赫亚在曼联的开始并不是很顺利，但慢慢地，他经受住了考验。

Penelope

兰帕德碰上德赫亚，就没戏

Penelope

我估计还是豌豆和鲁尼。车子那里应该是马塔，托雷斯和斯图里奇
斯图里奇要当心，这小子当年在曼城时我就觉得不错
午时靡深蓝 发表于 2011-9-16 23:22

预测不错