这话听着耳熟，25年前，比利时主教练 老狐狸 蒂斯 在半决赛被阿根廷淘汰后说过完全一样的话。只有名字不一样。:lol
爱丁堡公爵 发表于 2011-4-13 17:34 http://bbs.argstorm.com/images/common/back.gif
哇，公爵的球龄相当不错！！
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Lionel Messi vs Shakhtar
http://www.tudou.com/v/fS9TLO7bo6s/v.swf
Guardiola uses Mascherano at centre-back
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/04/13/mascherano-centre-back-barcelona/
he was good with his tackles on the floor, but largely struggled in aerial challenges, as his mixed ‘tackles’ chalkboard shows:（他的地面抢球很出色，但是空中抢球面临着巨大的挑战）
综合的抢球图表
He was more comfortable when doing what comes naturally – moving up the pitch and intercepting short passes into feet（他更适合于压上并拦截对方的短传）
拦截图
在某种意义上，与他踢中卫的目的有些矛盾。如果他不断地的上前，皮克还是得给他补位，西班牙人的速度缺陷将再次暴露。小马的表现很可靠，但也许并不能完全解决巴萨的问题。
本帖最后由 ychee 于 2011-4-14 12:52 编辑
哪位知识帝来科普一下 tackle（抢球）与intercept（拦截）的区别 据说实况足球可以用不同键盘操作？
抢球更多需要身体对抗？拦截更需要预判？ 难道铲断属于抢球吗？
Guardiola uses Mascherano at centre-back
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/04/13/mascherano-centre-back-barcelona/
he was good with his tackles on the floor, but largely struggled in aerial challeng ...
ychee 发表于 2011-4-14 12:48 http://bbs.argstorm.com/images/common/back.gif
tackles on the floor 和 aerial challenges 中 tackle 和 challenge 是一个意思吧
哪位知识帝来科普一下 tackle（抢球）与intercept（拦截）的区别 据说实况足球可以用不同键盘操作？
抢球更多需要身体对抗？拦截更需要预判？ 难道铲断属于抢球吗？ ...
ychee 发表于 2011-4-14 12:51 http://bbs.argstorm.com/images/common/back.gif
这里的tackle，具体指铲球吧
intercept：to stop, catch, or take control of someone or something before they can get to the place they are going to
tackle：
v.
1. to take hold of someone and push them to the ground; to take hold of an opponent in a game such as football and stop them from moving forward, usually by forcing them to the ground
2. to try to take the ball from an opponent in a game such as soccer
n.
1.an attempt to stop an opponent from moving forward in a game such as football, usually by forcing them to the ground
2.an attempt to take the ball from an opponent in a game such as soccer
本帖最后由 ychee 于 2011-4-14 14:23 编辑
tackles on the floor 和 aerial challenges 中 tackle 和 challenge 是一个意思吧
thewall 发表于 2011-4-14 13:13 http://bbs.argstorm.com/images/common/back.gif
谢谢 我才注意到challenge原来可以翻译为抢球em01英文拦截的意思也解释得很清楚了
he was good with his tackles on the floor, but largely struggled in aerial challenges, as his mixed ‘tackles’ chalkboard shows:
根据这句话 tackles on the floor（地面抢球） aerial challenges（空中抢球） 下面的图表是mixed ‘tackles’所以我觉得tackles应该还包括争抢高空球吧？不单单是铲断？并且“take the ball from an opponent”也不止铲断一种方式吧
另纠正一下：前面提到的 recover the balls 18次 是重夺球的意思。。
我理解，抢断是对方球员持球时你去试图把球权夺过来，拦截是球已经脱离对方球员控制时你把球拿到或让你的同伴拿到
抢断有成功，也有失败，拦截肯定是成功的
本帖最后由 ychee 于 2011-4-14 20:10 编辑
111# 阿根廷怎样
应该是吧 之所以很困惑是因为我一直感觉小马抢断很多 拦截并不太多的
发小马的集锦 大家去看吧。。
好像高球也算在拦截（第二个图中的） 但是他写的理由又怎么解释呢。。因为高空球小马都拦下来了
拦截下来出边线的球好像没算
Mascherano vs Donetsk （上半场）
http://www.tudou.com/v/YF3YiFWkTt4/&rpid=84543606/v.swf
后来有一小段黑屏了 没办法 网上的都这样 中间断断续续还有点
Mascheranovs Donetsk （下半场）
http://www.tudou.com/v/NLPCpB9S-88/&rpid=84543606/v.swf